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Atlantic Revolutions, Strayer 16

13/1/2017

25 Comments

 
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Left: The storming of the Bastille, a seminal moment in the French Revolution.

Hey, I understand a tough first week back, but two weeks? We have far too much to learn and practice to play the avoidance game. Please lean in to your discomforts and focus on the process.

​If you are reading properly, you'll see it's loaded with comparisons. Three column charts (Venn diagram) will serve you well.
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25 Comments
Audrey Deigaard
14/1/2017 11:37:03

mp783 - In what ways did the ideas of the Enlightenment contribute to the Atlantic revolutions?

1. ideas from the Enlightenment were shared across the ocean in newspapers, books, and pamphlets
2. idea that human political and social arrangements could be developed and improved by human action -> conventional ways of life and thought were no longer sacrosanct and were frequently attacked
3. new ideas of liberty, equality, free trade, religious tolerance, republicanism, and human rationality
4. core idea of "popular sovereignty," meaning that the authority to govern came from the people, not god or tradition
5. ideas generated by the Enlightenment were often controversial

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Audrey Deigaard
14/1/2017 23:28:40

mq792 - what awas distinctive about the Haitian Revolution, both in world history generally and in the history of Atlantic revolutions?

1. only completely successful slave revolt in world history
2. 2nd independent republic in the Americas
3. 1st non-European state to emerge from Western colonialism

I feel like I'm missing a lot for this question bc it's such a short answer, so please add any others I may have missed!

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Mia Wei
15/1/2017 20:53:04

I also said
4. inspired other slave rebellions and gave a boost to the abolitionist movement
5.. ironically, led to the temporary expansion of slavery elsewhere, such as Cuba
6.Especially in Latin America, injected a deep caution and social conservatism in the elites that led their countries to independence
7. Napoleon's defeat in Haiti persuaded him to sell territories, the Louisiana Purchase, to the US

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Melina Bezanis
17/1/2017 16:18:55

Q: what was distinctive about the Haitian revolution in world history and the Atlantic revolutions?

1. It was the only successful slave revolution in the world
2. it was the first non european colony to emerge from western colonialism
2. power gravitated towards slaves during the revolution-> former slave, Toussaint Louverture, led the resistance and controlled Haitian internal and external affairs (which was unique because in all the other Atlantic revolutions power was held by the white males typically or the upper classes)
3. the revolution caused slavery to expand elsewhere in the world (mainly Cuba due to compensation for Haitis lack of production)
4. it was the only colony to have independence debt to their colonizer, France

?? 5. it was regarded as the richest colony in the world, but during the revolution its economy was destroyed and impoverished, so it lost its powerful position on the global stage so to speak

i was thinking more out of the box when i answered this question but maybe i'm too far off. let me know what you think!

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Matilda
17/1/2017 21:35:47

This is a great answer! Could you also say that it Injected deep caution and social conservatism in elites that led to their countries independence?

Amy Vaughan
18/1/2017 21:57:06

Going off of what Matilda said, the extreme violence of the Haitian Revolution served not only as a warning for Latin American elites to proceed carefully into revolutionary territory, but also as a precautionary tale to slaveholders everywhere of the dangers of implementing slavery. This fear contributed to the abolition movement.

Audrey Deigaard
15/1/2017 16:22:02

sqw3r798 - What were the "echoes of revolution"?

1. Britain's loss of its North American colonies -> Britain's growing interest and interventions in Asia -> British colonial rule in India and Opium Wars in China
2. Napoleon's brief conquest of Egypt -> modernizing regime emerged -> westernizing reforms in Ottoman empire
3. the idea of a constitution spread to Poland, Latin America, Spanish-rule Philippines, China, Ottoman Empire, and British India
4. small revolutions in Europe 1830
5. attempt to establish constitutional regime in Russia 1825 inspired by Enlightenment and French Revolution
6. American and French revolutions led sympathetic elites in Central Europe to feel they had fallen behind
7. abolitionist movements
8. nationalist movements
9. feminist movements

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Marissa Kapp
16/1/2017 17:25:45

MQ#2- What was revolutionary about the American Revolution, and what was not?

Revolutionary-
1. Increased established democraric tendencies in the colonies
2. Widened the range of political participation
3. Initiated the break down of Europe's New World empires
4. Was the first sustained effort to put the political ideas of the Enlightenment into practice
5. The "right to revolution" proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence inspired revolutions elsewhere
6. In the century that followed the revolution, the US became the world's most democratic county

Not Revolutionary-
1. The revolution only sought to preserve the already existing liberties of the colonies instead of creating new ones
2. No women or people of color shared in the revolutionary widening of political participation

That's all I found for this margin question, but please let me know if I missed anything!!

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Eliza and Amy
17/1/2017 19:29:11

We added that the widening of political participation eroded the power of the traditional upper class ("gentlemen"). Do you think it is important to say that the Constitution was the first sustained effort? For added specificity?

Overall, I think you hit the nail on the head.

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Yasmeen Gaber
16/1/2017 18:18:22

How did the French Revolution differ from the American Revolution?

-American Revolution developed against a tense colonial relationship, whereas the French Revolution grew out of internal social conflicts--nobility didn't want to pay more taxes, middle class didn't like the aristocracy's privileges, the lower class grew immensely poor with rising unemployment and the rising price of bread

-Social conflicts in the French Revolution gave rise to a more radical, far-reaching, violent situation

-American sought to build on earlier freedoms and the present, whereas the French wanted to start from scratch and look to the future

-French revolution raised a more explicit question of political gender equality, with women playing a more active role in the French Revolution

-Influence spread differently--French influence spread through Napoleon's conquest and French dominance as a result, whereas American influence spread as an inspiration from its revolution and constitution

Am I missing anything?

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Melina Bezais
17/1/2017 17:01:38

How were Spanish American revolutions shaped by the American, French, and Haitian revolutions that happened earlier?

1. Native born elites were already familiar with enlightenment ideas such as personal liberty, popular sovereignty, and republican government which made them more open to the concept of change and improvement
2. Spanish elites were paranoid of a slave revolt after seeing the Haitian revolution (whites were also outnumbered which added to their paranoia of being overthrown)
3. Napoleon conquered Spain and Portugal which removed the Spanish monarchs from power

i feel like im missing information feel free to add on, the list seems too short

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Eliza and Amy
17/1/2017 19:49:16

This lines up with what we found!

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Melina Bezanis
17/1/2017 17:15:36

What accounts for the end of Atlantic slavery?

1. enlightenment thinkers saw slavery as a violation of basic human rights
2. slavery contradicted many people's religious beliefs (Quakers were the first to be outspokenly against slavery, then protestant evangelicals)
3. people realized slavery wasn't necessary for the economy, and saw it as out of date in the rapidly advancing world
4. the slave revolutions (specifically in Haiti) called attention to the unjust treatment slaves endured, and the brutality in which they were suppressed appalled the British public
5. Britain's determination to patrol illegal slave ships across the Atlantic contributed to the international pressure to end slavery

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Matilda
18/1/2017 13:24:39

I also said,
-Public pronouncements of American and French revolutions about liberty and equality focused attention on slavery.
-Middle class people began to create pamphlets, petitions to parliament, lawsuits, boycotts of slave producing sugar, frequent public meetings
-Emergence of Abolitionist movements which brought pressure on government to close down trade in slaves then to ban slavery itself


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Melina Bezanis
17/1/2017 17:50:46

How did the end of slavery affect the lives of former slaves?

1. illegal slave traders continued to ship millions to Cuba and Brazil
2. those who could get their own land worked as independent peasant farmers
3. others worked as indentured servants or sharecroppers with low pay or debt to their landlords
4. freed slaves enjoyed limited rights and relative freedom, but segregation laws, denial of voting rights, and racism still restricted their freedom
5. did not obtain political equality

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Elian Romero
20/3/2017 17:26:12

I don't know if this counts, but it also meant there would be a lot of future racism and segregation towards African Americans and the end of slavery also caused a shortage of jobs or labor for slaves in the south.

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Sofia Puccio
17/1/2017 21:29:42

MQ9: What were the achievements and limitations of nineteenth-century feminism?

Achievements
-upper-and middle-class women gained entrance to universities in small numbers
-some US states passed legislation allowing women to control their own property and wages
-divorce laws were liberalized
-professions such as medicine, social work, and teaching opened to women
-a couple of countries allowed women the right to vote
-prompted a discussion about the role of a woman in modern society
-spread beyond the West
Limitations
-argued that too much time outside the home would cause reproductive damage and as a result, depopulate the nation (side note: what the heck???)
-viewed feminism as selfish
-Japan cracked down firmly on feminism, banning women from politics altogether
-did not have thoroughly revolutionary consequences

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Eliza
17/1/2017 21:45:38

Yes! And it seems this question will be very useful in preparing for the comparative on Thursday.

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Amy
18/1/2017 22:04:01

For achievements, I also have the establishment of a trans-Atlantic organization (pretty impressive for the time), and rising literacy rates

For limitations I also put that there were divisions within feminism in that there were multiple views of what feminism should be, as well as divisive racial and ethnic constructs that made some women outsiders even within a larger group of outsiders.

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Sofia Puccio
17/1/2017 21:36:51

Summing up so far: Compare the North American, French, Haitian, and Spanish American revolutions. What are the most significant categories of comparison?

So for this question, I made my categories of comparison causes, long-term effects, short-term effects, and what happened during (which can be narrowed down into smaller categories such as how violent it was, how long it took, etc.) Am I on the right track here? What do yall think?

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Eliza and Amy
17/1/2017 21:44:48

BPQ4: Looking Back: To what extent did the Atlantic Revolutions reflect the influence of early modern historical developments?

- Enlightenment ideas influenced all of the revolutions
- Enlightenment, Protestantism, Scientific Revolution contributed to skeptical and self-sufficient attitude towards ancient authority
- Results of slave trade in Haiti and later in abolitionist movements
- Imperial expansion of Britain, France, Spain, Portugal
- Increased warfare in Europe had placed France and Britain in war debt, requiring them to increase taxes (which led to revolution!)

We're stuck on this one, so any additions would be welcome!

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Amy and Eliza
17/1/2017 21:51:18

Seeking the Main Point: What were the most important outcomes of the Atlantic revolutions, both immediately and in the century that followed?
-Feminism
-Nationalism, including the unification of Germany and Italy
-Abolition of slavery
-Rise of the U.S. as a powerful American nation
-Spread of republican ideologies, esp. inspired by Dec. of Ind. and Constitution
-General rise of the middle class
-Napoleon’s impact on legal systems in Europe, spread of French ideologies (popular sovereignty, religious tolerance, etc), expansion of French empire

This is just what we we thought of off the top of our heads- please feel free to contribute!

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Yasmeen Gaber
18/1/2017 08:10:26

What accounts for the growth of nationalism as a powerful political and personal identity in the nineteenth century?

1. Atlantic Revolutions forged themselves in the name of a new nation
2. Scientific Revolution-->less religious unity-->identity with a more specific nation
3. Industrialization-->allegiance away from local communities and into larger nation entities
4. Printing and publishing industry published in several languages-->people thought of themselves as part of a linguistic group
5. Leaders re-articulated the cultural distinctions which were already known such that they became more divisive

Am I missing anything?

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Amy Vaughan
18/1/2017 11:28:17

I'm not sure if this one counts, but Napoleon's conquests awoke a common national identity among those brought under his rule.

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Matilda Smolij
18/1/2017 13:18:08

I'm not sure if this counts but I also said that nationalism drew on songs, dances, folk tales, historical experiences and collective memories of earlier culture’s.

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