Global Commerce, Strayer 15

12/8/2015

cathleen

12/8/2015 05:23:50 pm

AHHHH! It's up!
I wanted to address several things and get everyone's input. I'm fairly certain there are going to be more off margin questions on the test now. I was just wondering how everyone is approaching that. There are some sections where the main gist of the paragraph isn't really answered in the margin questions, so that could be problematic. I formulated some of my own margin questions that kind of get a better aerial view of these sections. If you don't know what I mean, under the Asian commerce section, there isn't a margin question, even though it seems pretty informative on the impact europeans had on asian areas. So, what are you all doing to study that is different from what you normally do?

Benji

12/8/2015 06:15:56 pm

Hey Cathleen! (And anyone else who happens to be on the forum this late...) This is my first time really using the forum so bare with me lol.

I'm very glad you brought up that point about the Asian Commerce section. I believe a good DIY margin question could focus on the change of Japanese views of Europeans (as the Japanese was a highly discussed topic in this part):
-From: giving Europeans a hospitable welcome (finding useful their military tech, shipbuilding skills, geographic knowledge, commercial opportunities, and some religious ideas) as a means of uniting Japans' fractious and competitive society "plagued by endemic conflict" to quote Strayer himself.
-To: The closing of civil wars and rise of shoguns making the European seem like threats more than constructive opportunities, torturing and executing thousands of missionaries and converts.
It's also important to note the Dutch continued to trade with Japan in a certain region even after the shoguns united Japan.

I was unsure if you meant "off margin questions" as in more of them will appear or if we're getting away from them, so I assumed the latter. Either way, a lot of the information I've noticed is becoming increasingly not only dense but intertwined, meaning some questions will share certain answers, so I think it's become more important to be careful as to neither conflate nor divide details too much in answering...if that makes sense.

One final thought I have is the importance of this question: "What is the world historical importance of the silver trade?" (MQ5) Perhaps it's better to become less dependent on margin questions, however when you look at this one in particular it seems quite imperative to this chapter. This question alone took up a little over a page of notes to answer in bullet form (perhaps I divided my details too much, but it's undeniable there are a lot of them begin with). A lot of this chapter has to do with flow of silver from the Americas to Asia, so make sure all categories are being addressed. The categories I came up with included +/- influence to Spain, +/- influence on China (I'm debating whether to make positive and negative influences different categories or under the same umbrella), effect on Japan, effect on Indigenous North Americans, and possibly the "Silver Drain" as a whole to add cohesiveness between these categories

I don't know if any red day kids are going to read this by tomorrow, but hopefully it helps at least the gray day kids and whoever else happens to be on :)
-Benji

cathleen

12/8/2015 06:52:45 pm

Hey, that was one of my makeshift margin questions! High five! And maybe I should stop saying fake margin questions, because it is a little confusing. What I mean is "questions not generated by strayer-bots, but bingham"- like the greek legacies question way back when. But yes, you got what I meant even though I phrased it weird, so thanks. Also, I dig your categories for 5. Just curious, how are you working the silver drain into your answer? Are you making it its own category or mentioning it under china?

Sydney

12/8/2015 07:35:46 pm

BPQ5: What lasting legacies of early modern globalization are evident in the early 21st century?
- ATLANTIC TRADING NETWORKS
- PACIFIC TRADING NETWORKS: between Americas and east Asia
- INFLUENCE: of European civilization, especially in the Americas and the Philippines
- ENGAGEMENT OF MORE PEOPLE: such as those in Siberia, in world trade networks
- AFRICAN AND EUROPEAN ORIGIN: large populations; African cultural influence in the Americas
- IDEAS OF RACE: particularly “blackness”
- DEMOGRAPHIC AND ECONOMIC LEGACY: slave trade in West Africa

Benji

12/8/2015 08:12:07 pm

I think those are pretty spot on and delicious answers. I'd include also the part of race that pertains to South America with the dozens of recognized mixed races that came about colonization and the Atlantic Slave Trade.
Also (maybe this is jumping the gun chronologically or using non-chapter info) the British end up ruling India and that had some roots in setting up commerce in India during this time.
Perhaps not exact answers, but some things to consider.

Sydney

12/8/2015 08:22:10 pm

Thanks Benji! You're right these ARE good points to think about :)

Sydney

12/8/2015 07:38:14 pm

BPQ3: Describe and account for the differing outcomes of European expansion in the Americas, Africa and Asia.
- AFRICA:
o STRONGER TRADE RELATIONSHIPS: setting up several trading posts on east coast of Africa
o NO EFFORT TO CONQUER LARGER TERRITORIES: the most attractive regions for Europeans to conquest, such as W. Africa, possessed too many deadly tropical diseases against which Europeans had little immunity
- AMERICA:
o DOMINANCE: conquered the region politically and dominated it economically mainly caused by demographic collapse of Native Americans because of DISEASE AND TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES when they arrived: guns, germs and steel
- ASIA:
o TRADING POST EMPIRES: (with the exception of Spain) they sought to found these empires with mixed success.
o SPICE ISLANDS: The Dutch were able to dominate these islands and both the British and the Portuguese were able to set up fortified trading posts along the Indian Ocean coast
o NO CONQUER OF LARGE TERRITORIES: in some cases such as Japan, the Europeans were only able to trade under conditions set by the local authority
o CIVILIZATIONS OF ASIA: the Spanish and the Dutch were able to dominate small regions; the larger establishments were too powerful for the Europeans and the distances between Asia and Europe made such a colonial empire impractical

Thien-Tam Do

12/8/2015 07:43:41 pm

Margin question numero unoooooo.
What drove European involvement in Asian Commerce?

1) GOODS/HIGH DEMAND: asian products (silk, porcelain, china, indian cotton), tropical spices (nutmeg, cinnamon, mace, cloves, pepper)

2) POST BLACK DEATH: European pop. increased, tax subjects and built military, cities grew (England, Netherlands, & N. Italy) which were centers of international commerce, became more capitalist $, had private ownership and capital investment

3) VENICE: monopolized European trade in Eastern goods beyond Mediterranean and around the Muslim world

4) PRESTER JOHN: mysterious Christian monarch that was rumored to rule an Asian/African kingdom that plans to revive the Cursades and combat the common enemy-- Islam

Thien-Tam Continued..

12/8/2015 07:45:04 pm

If y'all think I should add or take anything out, please reply!!

Madeleine Spence

12/8/2015 09:19:13 pm

Hey y'all! Great job!
I would also include that not only were the Europeans trying to dodge Venice they were also trying to dodge Muslim Egypt... Dodge probably is not the right word though...

Sabrina Koseki

12/9/2015 06:01:41 pm

I think it's also important that Europeans also were looking for gold/ silver to pay for Eastern goods (Portuguese explored West African coast looking to access African goldfields).

Benji

12/8/2015 08:16:32 pm

This is basically exactly what I was thinking. I also had the fact that Europeans did not have many goods desired by the Asian commerce so they became intertwined within the preexisting market. For example, Portugal shipped Asian goods to Asian ports and the Dutch took control of spice production of various islands.
This may be extraneous information, but I believe it has importance to the question.

Benji

12/8/2015 08:07:11 pm

@cathleen (because I can't directly reply)
Thank for such kind words about my groupings. I'm thinking because the Silver Drain describes the movement of Silver from the Americas to Spain/Philippines to China and the fact that it's such an overarching concept to the question, it should be the first category to be explained. With this information being explained first, the rest of the answer has context.
That's the way I see how it should go at least, but perhaps there's better ways to go about it out there (like what you suggested about it being with China).

Diego Salazar

12/9/2015 06:48:52 pm

You should probably begin by establishing the fact that china had an increased demand for gold, and therefore the silver drain was able to fluorish.

Since we're in this whole trade thing lets use this analogy. Answering these questions is like sellikg a product. You need to establish a need before youre able to sell that product. If you establish chinas need for gold, that will be the backbone of your answer, and the rest will follow

Diego Salazar

12/9/2015 06:49:48 pm

*silver
*silver

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